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		<title>By: prince</title>
		<link>http://www.coolshankin.com/blog/2007/01/30/missed-flight-delayed-flights-and-air-deccan/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the new India search engine <a HREF="http://byindia.com" REL="nofollow">http://www.ByIndia.com</a>they added all the cool featurw of popular productslike MySpace,YouTube, Ebay,craigslist,etc.all for free to use and specifically for India.Anyone else try this yet? ByIndia.com First to Blend Search,Social Network,Video Sharing and Auctions Into One Seamless Product for Indian Internet Users.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess i got a bit carried away :-). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;one reason which I can give for trains beings delayed in Delhi is the fog. It very is common at this point of the year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;bangalore has changed drastically  in the past two years (between my last visits). while autos still follow the meter, they are often tampered. auto drivers often demand excess fare and refuse to go. if things proceed in the same way, it would go the same way as delhi, where no one uses the meter.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;btw ... had you gone for an acm competition ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess i got a bit carried away <img src='http://www.coolshankin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . </p>
<p>one reason which I can give for trains beings delayed in Delhi is the fog. It very is common at this point of the year.</p>
<p>bangalore has changed drastically  in the past two years (between my last visits). while autos still follow the meter, they are often tampered. auto drivers often demand excess fare and refuse to go. if things proceed in the same way, it would go the same way as delhi, where no one uses the meter.</p>
<p>btw &#8230; had you gone for an acm competition ?</p>
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		<title>By: Shankar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 07:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous, anonmymous coward,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i have made posts before on bangalore lacking infrastructure and stuff, condemning kannada nationalism and many thing thats wrong with south india ... in this post i have talked abt what i have seen in media about s. india being more developed than n. india in general .... some of experience i had in my first visit to north for just two days have been bad .... i know i am generalising .... but, thats the experiece i have had .... as i said i have talked abt thing wrong with south india too on this blog, please dont compare me to one of those people who simply resort to saying &quot;i am better than you&quot; kinda crap.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;please treat this post as &quot;what could be wrong with n. india?&quot; post and not some &quot;north vs south&quot; post.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;abt trains being delayed .... every alternate train was delayed that day .... if trains are added without addding any tracks, what else can be expected .... in a way, that was the prime reason for me to miss the flight and lose 3k.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;dont know abt mumbai.. but chennai bus conductors are much better than bangalore. auto drivers in chennai are the worse you can get. i have managed to get away in bagalore with standard rate in autos.... dont know if you have had bad experience. at leat bangalore was good place when i was there four years back .... some people tell me things have changed .. if so, i am talking about old bangalore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous, anonmymous coward,</p>
<p>i have made posts before on bangalore lacking infrastructure and stuff, condemning kannada nationalism and many thing thats wrong with south india &#8230; in this post i have talked abt what i have seen in media about s. india being more developed than n. india in general &#8230;. some of experience i had in my first visit to north for just two days have been bad &#8230;. i know i am generalising &#8230;. but, thats the experiece i have had &#8230;. as i said i have talked abt thing wrong with south india too on this blog, please dont compare me to one of those people who simply resort to saying &#8220;i am better than you&#8221; kinda crap.</p>
<p>please treat this post as &#8220;what could be wrong with n. india?&#8221; post and not some &#8220;north vs south&#8221; post.</p>
<p>abt trains being delayed &#8230;. every alternate train was delayed that day &#8230;. if trains are added without addding any tracks, what else can be expected &#8230;. in a way, that was the prime reason for me to miss the flight and lose 3k.</p>
<p>dont know abt mumbai.. but chennai bus conductors are much better than bangalore. auto drivers in chennai are the worse you can get. i have managed to get away in bagalore with standard rate in autos&#8230;. dont know if you have had bad experience. at leat bangalore was good place when i was there four years back &#8230;. some people tell me things have changed .. if so, i am talking about old bangalore.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude ... you seem to bear some kind of a grudge against north india.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;you say that you experienced pre-recorded messages for the first time in delhi and you try to explain it away by &quot;blaming&quot; bihari politicians.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;a single incident in kanpur (which you compare with chennai btw) leads to such a sweeping statement. why dont you compare apples to apples (say delhi to chennai ?)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i have heard stories from relatives who were singled out for discrimination in chennai coz they spoke hindi. never heard of such stuff in delhi. living in bangalore, kannada nationalism is all too visible, trying to intimidate &quot;outsiders&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;please try to avoid such sweeping statements  ... unless you are trying to attract some particular kind of readers to your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude &#8230; you seem to bear some kind of a grudge against north india.</p>
<p>you say that you experienced pre-recorded messages for the first time in delhi and you try to explain it away by &#8220;blaming&#8221; bihari politicians.</p>
<p>a single incident in kanpur (which you compare with chennai btw) leads to such a sweeping statement. why dont you compare apples to apples (say delhi to chennai ?)</p>
<p>i have heard stories from relatives who were singled out for discrimination in chennai coz they spoke hindi. never heard of such stuff in delhi. living in bangalore, kannada nationalism is all too visible, trying to intimidate &#8220;outsiders&#8221;.</p>
<p>please try to avoid such sweeping statements  &#8230; unless you are trying to attract some particular kind of readers to your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you need to travel a bit more in Bangalore.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Coming from Mumbai, the lack of professionalism in Bangalore is obvious.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chennai is much better than Bangalore in that respect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the whole North South issue, cut the crap. Certain parts of the south are better developed thsn the north. Certain parts of the north are better developed than the south. Did you know that the Bangalore &lt;-&gt; Mumbai rail route isn&#039;t even electrified for most of it&#039;s length? As for trains being late, I have experienced that happening even in the south, it&#039;s just that you won&#039;t hear those announcements :).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, the economic powerhouses of the country have been in the east and west. The South has just started growing, and hasn&#039;t yet been impacted by overcrowded cities. Give it another couple of decades, when the blue collar labour migration occurs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s when the south *will* break down. You need massive investment in infrastructure, and south India just doesn&#039;t have it yet (try going north of Bangalore to see when I mean).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Doing the same thing in the north would help a lot more, because you could stop the movement of people to the south.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have seen cops travelling in rickshaws without paying in Bangalore. They actually travel by bus/train in Mumbai and buy tickets.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Though I would agree with you about not travelling by Air Deccan, but not because of safety issues. Keep in mind that aircraft cost a lot of money, and losing even one is a huge cost. Air Deccan will do it&#039;s best to keep the aircraft in the air, if only to avoid paying airport charges.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PS: Chennai autos are well known to loot travellers by overcharging. Bangalore isn&#039;t much better in that respect after 8 pm. Kolkata and Mumbai have much better systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you need to travel a bit more in Bangalore.</p>
<p>Coming from Mumbai, the lack of professionalism in Bangalore is obvious.</p>
<p>Chennai is much better than Bangalore in that respect.</p>
<p>As for the whole North South issue, cut the crap. Certain parts of the south are better developed thsn the north. Certain parts of the north are better developed than the south. Did you know that the Bangalore < -> Mumbai rail route isn&#8217;t even electrified for most of it&#8217;s length? As for trains being late, I have experienced that happening even in the south, it&#8217;s just that you won&#8217;t hear those announcements <img src='http://www.coolshankin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Of course, the economic powerhouses of the country have been in the east and west. The South has just started growing, and hasn&#8217;t yet been impacted by overcrowded cities. Give it another couple of decades, when the blue collar labour migration occurs.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when the south *will* break down. You need massive investment in infrastructure, and south India just doesn&#8217;t have it yet (try going north of Bangalore to see when I mean).</p>
<p>Doing the same thing in the north would help a lot more, because you could stop the movement of people to the south.</p>
<p>I have seen cops travelling in rickshaws without paying in Bangalore. They actually travel by bus/train in Mumbai and buy tickets.</p>
<p>Though I would agree with you about not travelling by Air Deccan, but not because of safety issues. Keep in mind that aircraft cost a lot of money, and losing even one is a huge cost. Air Deccan will do it&#8217;s best to keep the aircraft in the air, if only to avoid paying airport charges.</p>
<p>PS: Chennai autos are well known to loot travellers by overcharging. Bangalore isn&#8217;t much better in that respect after 8 pm. Kolkata and Mumbai have much better systems.</p>
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		<title>By: curiousmoron</title>
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		<dc:creator>curiousmoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;South India is more developed than the north doesn&#039;t surprise me at all after this incident.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Perfectly said! The professionalism in the behaviour is only found in South.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Congrats on your programming expeditions. Hope you get to go to Tokyo.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>South India is more developed than the north doesn&#8217;t surprise me at all after this incident.</i></p>
<p>Perfectly said! The professionalism in the behaviour is only found in South.</p>
<p>Congrats on your programming expeditions. Hope you get to go to Tokyo.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Vinay.V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinay.V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen this umpteen number of times. The most recent incident being Goa... I had booked KF while my friends had tickets for Air Deccan. Their flight was supposed to leave around the same time as mine... but at the end of the day, KF just got delayed by 20 mins. After reaching home when I called my friends, they were still waiting for the Air Deccan flight to take off... and all this for just a cost difference of 1.5k. I agree that for students it may be a difference to think of, but for working profressionals, I feel the difference is megere compared to the inconvinence he / she has to face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen this umpteen number of times. The most recent incident being Goa&#8230; I had booked KF while my friends had tickets for Air Deccan. Their flight was supposed to leave around the same time as mine&#8230; but at the end of the day, KF just got delayed by 20 mins. After reaching home when I called my friends, they were still waiting for the Air Deccan flight to take off&#8230; and all this for just a cost difference of 1.5k. I agree that for students it may be a difference to think of, but for working profressionals, I feel the difference is megere compared to the inconvinence he / she has to face.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahesh.R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahesh.R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to buswis comment, id say your writing hasnt changed much and it is as good as any other post. Obviously you dont campare to buswis &quot;high standards&quot;, but for mere mortals like me, I think its a pretty good post. But, then again, Im comparing it to my &quot;low standards&quot;, so i guess you need to consider my rating with a pinch of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to buswis comment, id say your writing hasnt changed much and it is as good as any other post. Obviously you dont campare to buswis &#8220;high standards&#8221;, but for mere mortals like me, I think its a pretty good post. But, then again, Im comparing it to my &#8220;low standards&#8221;, so i guess you need to consider my rating with a pinch of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya I agree that we cannot risk our lives for the sake a few thousand bucks by travelling in such cheap and dangerous flights(hope u have seen that air-deccan video on LAN..SCARY !!!). But what these low-cost carriers have done is they have forced big players like IA,Jet and Sahara also to bring down their costs, which otherwise I don&#039;t think would have happenned. Still I think the Govt should ensure that each and every flight passes through sufficient security checks before it starts carrying passengers. One more outcome of these low-cost carriers that I like is that it has totally ripped air-travel off it&#039;s elite status. In a big country like India there is a lot of scope and necessity for low-cost flights. It is now upto these companies to make the most of it....I have read that Kingfisher is cupping bigtime and they are expected to break-even only by 2010+.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And as far as Blore conductors are concerned this is a common thing..... it is upto the passengers to pay the entire ticket amount and get their ticket. I personally pay a buck or two more and get the ticket.Anyway these days 90% of the travellers have some kind of a pass.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;S.Manohar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya I agree that we cannot risk our lives for the sake a few thousand bucks by travelling in such cheap and dangerous flights(hope u have seen that air-deccan video on LAN..SCARY !!!). But what these low-cost carriers have done is they have forced big players like IA,Jet and Sahara also to bring down their costs, which otherwise I don&#8217;t think would have happenned. Still I think the Govt should ensure that each and every flight passes through sufficient security checks before it starts carrying passengers. One more outcome of these low-cost carriers that I like is that it has totally ripped air-travel off it&#8217;s elite status. In a big country like India there is a lot of scope and necessity for low-cost flights. It is now upto these companies to make the most of it&#8230;.I have read that Kingfisher is cupping bigtime and they are expected to break-even only by 2010+.</p>
<p>And as far as Blore conductors are concerned this is a common thing&#8230;.. it is upto the passengers to pay the entire ticket amount and get their ticket. I personally pay a buck or two more and get the ticket.Anyway these days 90% of the travellers have some kind of a pass.</p>
<p>S.Manohar</p>
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		<title>By: Shankar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mahesh, @sudeep&lt;br/&gt;low cost airlines have to find other means to reduce cost. compromise of safety is no the way to go by. thats the only thing i am worried about. i wouldn&#039;t have traveled in flight if not for air deccan and other low cost airlines but they need to provide good service to survive. i hope they stay.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@ashwin (ghattu)&lt;br/&gt;continental ... will remember that&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@janak&lt;br/&gt;it has happened to me in Bangalore too but it involved not more than a rupee.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@nikhil&lt;br/&gt;i have always managed to get the change back :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@aswin (bus)&lt;br/&gt;thanks for the honest comment :) .... but seriously, what??? i haven&#039;t been writng for a while and haven&#039;t been reading either for a sem owing to gre and agre ... maybe that&#039;s the reason. will speak to you later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mahesh, @sudeep<br />low cost airlines have to find other means to reduce cost. compromise of safety is no the way to go by. thats the only thing i am worried about. i wouldn&#8217;t have traveled in flight if not for air deccan and other low cost airlines but they need to provide good service to survive. i hope they stay.</p>
<p>@ashwin (ghattu)<br />continental &#8230; will remember that</p>
<p>@janak<br />it has happened to me in Bangalore too but it involved not more than a rupee.</p>
<p>@nikhil<br />i have always managed to get the change back <img src='http://www.coolshankin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@aswin (bus)<br />thanks for the honest comment <img src='http://www.coolshankin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;. but seriously, what??? i haven&#8217;t been writng for a while and haven&#8217;t been reading either for a sem owing to gre and agre &#8230; maybe that&#8217;s the reason. will speak to you later</p>
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